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So apparently I thought I'd be safe regarding the drive belt issue, but not, it just happened yesterday while driving on the highway. Battery light comes up first, then engine light and car starts to bog down, pull over and pop the hood. There's a blue liquid spilled all over the engine. Towed the car to the dealer Sunday, got a call today from them saying the drive belt ripped apart. /cry

Funny (or not) enough the car just came out of the dealer 2 days ago, took it there to complain about a wobble around 30 km/h (which they told me it was normal, due to the engine and rpm - total bullshit, anyone driving it can feel the wobble). Oh yeah, I also complained about a plastic noise coming from the center console where they told me it would be 250 bucks to try to fix plus no guarantees and they even said it could make it worse - like WTF with this dealer?!
 

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My 2018 q60 coupe also has a constant plastic noise from the front entertainment system.. cant decipher where it actually comes from but i noticed if my knee is pressed hard against it sometimes it simmers down lol
 

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i still think its because nissan uses cheap belts. I know nissan ranks near the bottom in terms of supplier relationships. Nissan is probably getting the bottom of the barrel belts. i wondering if theres a belt upgrade from gates or continental.
 

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I know nissan ranks near the bottom in terms of supplier relationships. Nissan is probably getting the bottom of the barrel belts.
This is so true based on my own experience working for Nissan. The only OEM I've heard of that treats their suppliers worse is VW. However, it's been a few years since I worked there so things may have improved (but I doubt it).

OP (@JonnyB), GL with your car. I'd push back with paying $250 to fix the plastic noise. You could try doing it yourself (the tech will basically take the panels apart and wrap a dense foam around the clips so they don't squeak). Heck, you could probably get a local audio shop to do a much better job (and for that price, they might even add a layer of sound damper to various surfaces).

FWIW, my old GTR tech asked for $100 to fix some plastic on plastic noises from my center console on my old GTR. No way in h*ll that I would pay $250 for a debatable if it'll work fix on any car.
 

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This is so true based on my own experience working for Nissan. The only OEM I've heard of that treats their suppliers worse is VW. However, it's been a few years since I worked there so things may have improved (but I doubt it).

from what i read it was mainly ghosn with his 90s style GM pushing suppliers to hit a certain price point vs Toyota/honda working with suppliers to reach their performance and reliability goals together. GM/Ford in the last 10yrs adapted a similar attitude as toyota with suppliers and has resulted in improvement in the quality of their cars...seems like the opposite has been happening with nissan since 2006.
 

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I wondering if there's a belt upgrade from gates or continental.
Continental - No.
Goodyear - No.
Gates (P/N K060766A) - Yes
Dayco (P/N A060767) - Yes

I just ordered a Gates Serpentine Belt for my '17 Q60 Red Sport w/21k miles. No apparent alignment issues, but the tensioner indicator is between the mid-point (new) and the limit mark, so some stretch has occurred.

The Gates P/N is K060766A, which I got directly from Gates Technical Support via an email request.

I did not find any online sources for this P/N, but O'Reilly's carries Gates belts local to me. I had to see the Manager to get the belt special ordered (the P/N is a valid number in their ordering system).

Price TBD, but unless it is priced over $75, it's good as sold.
 

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No apparent alignment issues, but the tensioner indicator is between the mid-point (new) and the limit mark, so some stretch has occurred.
So I checked what I believe is the tensioner. Is it silver and and near the left coolant reservoir? I see two adjacent marks on the engine block side, and an arrow on the radiator side. Looks like the range of those indicators is just a few millimeters. Can you confirm?
 

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Continental - No.
Goodyear - No.
Gates (P/N K060766A) - Yes
Dayco (P/N A060767) - Yes

I just ordered a Gates Serpentine Belt for my '17 Q60 Red Sport w/21k miles. No apparent alignment issues, but the tensioner indicator is between the mid-point (new) and the limit mark, so some stretch has occurred.

The Gates P/N is K060766A, which I got directly from Gates Technical Support via an email request.

I did not find any online sources for this P/N, but O'Reilly's carries Gates belts local to me. I had to see the Manager to get the belt special ordered (the P/N is a valid number in their ordering system).

Price TBD, but unless it is priced over $75, it's good as sold.

too bad there's no continental part yet...i'm more of continental fan when it comes to accessory parts...tires are eh..lol.



Gates is pretty decent...i had a gates belt on my mercedes without any issues.


keep us updated on the gates belt.
 

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So I checked what I believe is the tensioner. Is it silver and and near the left coolant reservoir? I see two adjacent marks on the engine block side, and an arrow on the radiator side. Looks like the range of those indicators is just a few millimeters. Can you confirm?
Yes, that is the tensioner indicator.

I've included my tensioner for reference (21k miles). Showing some stretch has occurred. Any other car it would be a no-never mind, but with these festering belt stretch/shredding issues, a little preventative maintenance, changing to a different brand belt, might go a long way.
 

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Yes, that is the tensioner indicator.

I've included my tensioner for reference (21k miles). Showing some stretch has occurred. Any other car it would be a no-never mind, but with these festering belt stretch/shredding issues, a little preventative maintenance, changing to a different brand belt, might go a long way.
Mine looks exactly like that at 16,381 miles. Does the arrow move to the left as the belt stretches? At what position does the arrow indicate time for replacement?
 

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Yes, that is the tensioner indicator.

I've included my tensioner for reference (21k miles). Showing some stretch has occurred. Any other car it would be a no-never mind, but with these festering belt stretch/shredding issues, a little preventative maintenance, changing to a different brand belt, might go a long way.
Mine looks exactly like that at 16,381 miles. Does the arrow move to the left as the belt stretches? At what position does the arrow indicate time for replacement?
I believe the arrow moves to the right.
 

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i still think...nissan uses cheap belts which probably stretches as you add more boost since more boost will make the engine run hotter and produce more heat in the engine bay. Might explain why we're seeing majority of shredding belts on modified cars.


i had a supercharge v6 engine in my mercedes which i upped the boost from 14psi to 21psi by installing a smaller super charger pulley (makes the pulley spin faster) and i never had a issue with the belt coming off. There even technically more extra slack then stock pulley since the diameter of the pulley was smaller then stock. But mercedes uses continental belts and i switched to gates belt when i modifed my pulleys. I never had any issues with either one.
 

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I believe the arrow moves to the right.
Correct, and with "normal" serpentine belts, replacement is when the arrow lines up with the right notch, which defines the belt stretch tolerance limit.
 

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i still think...nissan uses cheap belts which probably stretches as you add more boost since more boost will make the engine run hotter and produce more heat in the engine bay. Might explain why we're seeing majority of shredding belts on modified cars.
My typical habit is when arriving in the garage, and I don't anticipate immediate going back out, I'll open the hood to allow the heat out of the engine compartment. It works well in the winter time - the engine heat helps increase the temperature in the garage ;)
 

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Correct, and with "normal" serpentine belts, replacement is when the arrow lines up with the right notch, which defines the belt stretch tolerance limit.
Does the arrow line up dead center of the indicators when the belt is new?
 

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My typical habit is when arriving in the garage, and I don't anticipate immediate going back out, I'll open the hood to allow the heat out of the engine compartment. It works well in the winter time - the engine heat helps increase the temperature in the garage ;)

at least your saving on heating costs lol...maybe do a separate long term review on the gates belt. it would be helpful as a searchable thread item.
 

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My typical habit is when arriving in the garage, and I don't anticipate immediate going back out, I'll open the hood to allow the heat out of the engine compartment. It works well in the winter time - the engine heat helps increase the temperature in the garage ;)
And I thought I was the only weirdo. I pop my hood to release heat and to connect the battery tender. :D
 

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