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Hey Everybody!

Nick here from Mishimoto! I just wanted to kick off this thread since we're a few weeks into our Q50/60 performance intercooler development, and we're really excited to share! The 3.0T that Infiniti crammed under the hood of these vehicles is quickly becoming a favorite here at Mishimoto, and we're stoked to take this platform even further. Make sure that you're following along with the development here, and on our Engineering Blog:

TRICKLE DOWN POWER – PERFORMANCE INTERCOOLER KIT R&D, PART 1 – STOCK REVIEW



For those not familiar with the concept of air-to-water intercooling, let’s dive in for a crash course. The end goal for any intercooler is to pull heat from the charged air and provide the engine with cooler, more dense air, providing better combustion. Where an air-to-air system uses a fresh air source to achieve this, an air-to-water system utilizes coolant. While these systems are more complex than their counterparts, they have plenty of advantages.

For starters, water, the primary ingredient in coolant, has a superior thermal conductivity than air and is much more effective at whisking away the heat from your charged air, resulting in much more consistent intake air temperatures. Also, since the coolant is constantly cycling through the system thanks to the pump, or pumps if you opted for the Red Sport, the intercooler is less prone to heat soak.

The primary heat dissipation of the air-to-water system is performed by an additional radiator, otherwise known as a heat exchanger, which is typically added to the vehicle’s cooling stack. This means there is much more flexibility on intercooler placement in the engine bay. For example, the intercoolers in the Q50 and Q60 affix directly to the throttle bodies, eliminating any need for long intercooling piping and significantly increasing efficiency.

We've got big plans and plenty more to come, so make sure that you keep your eyes peeled!

As always, don't hesitate to reach out with any questions!

Thanks,
Nick
 

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I love how new stuff is still being developed for this platform, makes me all warm and fuzzy with my recent acquisition.
 
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Absolutely! Make sure that you check out some of the other products we've already developed for this platform too!

-Nick
My guess is when you guys produce the final configuration for the ICs, it will likely mean the OEM engine cover will go bye-bye. Have you considered designing an engine cover that would complement the installation of your newly-designed ICs? Just a thought...
 

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My guess is when you guys produce the final configuration for the ICs, it will likely mean the OEM engine cover will go bye-bye. Have you considered designing an engine cover that would complement the installation of your newly-designed ICs? Just a thought...
That is a great question! Right now, the plan is to include spacers that allow the engine cover to mount without interference

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Hey Guys!

I just wanted to bump this thread with that blog post update as promised! Make sure you head to the Engineering Blog to check out the full scoop!

TRICKLE DOWN POWER – 2016+ INFINITI Q50/60 3.0T PERFORMANCE INTERCOOLER DESIGN PLANS AND PROTOTYPES



Speaking of flow, our core isn’t the only aspect that we plan to overhaul. The intercoolers’ end tanks originally featured some sharp angles and restrictive rubber charge pipes, which could limit the tuning potential of your VR30DDTT. Dave had a better idea, though. He plans to ditch the charge pipes and extend the intercooler inlets further down to meet the turbo with a short coupler. This updated end tank design significantly reduces potential leaks from degrading charge pipes. The new end tank shape will also vastly reduce airflow restrictions and turbulence, allowing for a smoother flow to the core. We’re also plotting on ditching all of the plastic and opting for a more sleek and sturdy cast aluminum construction.
As always, feel free to reach out with any questions that you might have!

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Any ETA on when this product will be available for purchase. When tuning & dyno graphs will be provided on possible gains with supporting mods or stock configuration?
We're currently aiming for a Q3 launch for these, but I'll be sure to keep you guys posted as we get closer!

Performance testing is coming soon, but we're still waiting on a few components to get our production samples fully assembled before we bring in our test vehicle. More to come very soon though!

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Hey Guys!

As promised, our long-awaited update to our intercooler project! As always, make sure that you head over to our engineering blog for the full look at our working prototypes:


TRICKLE DOWN POWER – 2016+ INFINITI Q50/Q60 3.0T PERFORMANCE INTERCOOLER R&D, PART 3 – PROTOTYPING AND PRELIMINARY TESTING



When we last left off, our prototype intercoolers were a plastic 1:1 scale model of our new design, specifically 3D printed for a real-world fitment check before starting our production. The trouble is that even with the advancement in technology, manufacturing is still a lengthy and costly process, especially when it comes to casting aluminum. Being the sticklers that we are, we wanted to ensure that our intercoolers would perform up to our standards before churning out hundreds of units without slowing down our development process. So, we decided to assemble a set of one-off working prototypes.
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3D printing is something that we rely on here at Mishimoto since it’s an ideal process for expediting our development process. While our printers aren’t set up for it, this manufacturing method has advanced to allow for the printing of metal, which is ideal for our situation. Metal 3D printing doesn’t require expensive tooling and is a much more efficient means of producing functional prototypes on a time crunch...read more...
We also started our preliminary testing, including a flow comparison against the stock units, and so far these are looking to be a solid addition to the VR30DDTT:




We still have a little more to wrap up before we dig into our final performance testing, but make sure that you guys keep your eyes peeled for those coming soon.

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Hey Gang!

I just wanted to give this thread a quick bump and let you all know that we're still working on wrapping this project up! I know it's been a minute since we've had an update for you but we're ensuring everything is up to snuff before we launch the final product.



We'll have PLENTY more regarding the performance of our system coming closer to the launch of our presale in the next few weeks.

Thanks again for your patience, guys! We're STOKED to finish this up and get these on your Q50/60s!

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Hey Guys,

It's FINALLY time! The results are in and we're eager to share them. As always make sure that you head over to our Engineering Blog for the full scoop!

TRICKLE DOWN POWER – 2016+ INFINITI Q50/Q60 3.0T PERFORMANCE INTERCOOLER R&D, PART 4 – DYNO TESTING



Evolution is all about improving over the generations. We hold our ancestors in high regard because they were able to make the first changes, but we use that as a base to improve. It’s much the same with the Q50’s potent platform. Inherited from the groundbreaking and mind-bending powerhouse that is the R35 GT-R, the Infinitis harness the potential of the derived VR30DDTT to shove you back into your quilted leather bucket seat.

One of the evolutionary hangups that still plagues this everyday GT-R, however, is the intercooler system. We’ve been hard at work ready to rectify that issue and put our new design to the test on our Dynapack system. Read more...
But wait, there's more! We're also launching our discounted presale today, so make sure that you grab your set today:

PERFORMANCE AIR-TO-WATER INTERCOOLERS, FITS INFINITI Q50/Q60 3.0T 2016+




As always, don't hesitate to reach out with any questions that you might have!

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Hey Guys!

We got our production samples installed on a donor vehicle recently and we're STOKED to show them off. Make sure that you head to the blog to check them out:

Trickle Down Power – 2016+ Infiniti Q50/Q60 3.0T Performance Intercooler R&D, Part 5 – The Final Form



Who isn’t stoked to show off their new threads? Nothing quite beats the confidence boost we get from a pair of slick shoes, perfect-fitting jeans, or that new band tee getting noticed. The same could be said for the intercooler kit destined for the VR30DDTT. Our prototypes already showed off their cooling abilities on the dyno, but their drab, utilitarian look wasn’t inspiring that morale boost. With our production units arriving here at the Mishimoto R&D facility, however, these intercoolers are feeling themselves and confident to post that racy ‘fit check. Continue Reading...
This also means that our presale is coming to a close VERY soon, so make sure that you take advantage of this special pricing while it lasts!

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This also means that our presale is coming to a close VERY soon, so make sure that you take advantage of this special pricing while it lasts!

-Nick
Looks like the pre-sale pricing has ended - still competitively sale priced, however.
 

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So we have standard intercoolers on top along with the heat exchanger in front? And this new intercooler seems like something for heavily modded cars right?
So that is a standard setup for an air-to-water setup. The intercoolers pull the heat from the charged air using coolant and the heat exchanger dissipates the heat from the liquid. So ideally you'll want to upgrade the intercoolers as you start increasing boost pressure, IE with a tune or turbos, but a good place to start is with the heat exchanger since that's primarily reducing heat in the system. You should see benefit from upgrading one component or the entire kit on a stock or even lightly modded vehicle, but an intercooling system update is a required stepping stone for those chasing high power figures.

I also just wanted to give everyone the heads up that our presale has ended and all orders should be on the way if you haven't already received them!

Looking forward to more installed shots and feedback!

-Nick
 
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